moronic post of the day (thread on vn rvr boards)

[Noreen]

Compare a sorc to a healer.
Healer can aoe stun yes, but they can't so shiet with dmg output.

What, your a healer and you aoe stun a full group, and you think the healer is going to attack you with his 1h hammer with no style's?? it'll take forever to kill a tank.

Sorcerer has CC (yes they have cloth but why are you complaning?? they have dmg output) they can put out dmg (not like a healer that can do crap with dmg output).

So i think it's pretty fair between those 2.

[Kirin]

HEaler VS SOrc?
Nor lets face it, a solo sorc cant kill a whole grp either ;P..
The healer.. is a 100% support character
the Sorc.. is a 50%
he healer has mezzes (no good if no one is around to kill what he mezzes), and heals (no good if theres no one to heal)
The Sorc.. has dots, DDs, a pet, debuffs and mezzes..

the healer has no dmg output whatsoever, ive talked to people who play 40ish healrs and they say they cant tank a blue.. the sorc can nuke the crap outta something, and still have his pet to do dmg along the way..
the only noticeable + id give to healers is that they have chain and they have insta heals for backup..

and just for the record i know its not important, but healers can use 2hs..

The sorc is a damn good class.. they have a healthy mix of everything, and solo they can do really well.. the big problem with the sorc is in grps they pull alot of aggro.. when a grp pulls 3 purps and doesent kill them fast enough, the sorc will usually get aggro from his mezzes.. Sorcs are well know for dying ;P.
which is why i guess there arent many around ;P

(Edited by Kirin at 4:45 pm on Jan. 7, 2003)

[Noreen]

omg you're worse than the people on vn boards /falls on sword

[Zutroy]

sorc's are uber

just all the people who play them are noobs

[Rosslyn]

hehe, people often forget that, besides the chain armor, healers aren't on the same HP table as sorcs, and they do a fair amount of melee damage (esp. w/ the 2-hand weapons).  It's not too hard to kill a mob when you can start off w/ a casted mez, then stun it later.  Add in the fact that healers can buff too, and I don't see how they bitch.  I think the results in the game show which character is the most viable (and so arguably the better character).  

[Lifesbane]

hehe, about how long does it take a zerker to go through a sorc?

[Axecleaver]

The issue is that it takes 10x longer to kill a healer than a sorcerer. And that healer can instamezz/instastun anyone who gets all up in his face. The issue is not how much damage these characters can do.

That's like saying paladins don't suck because they can healchant. It's totally irrelevant in RvR.

[Rosslyn]

Yeah, but end chant is uberrific.

On a lighter note, this cracked me up.  Some of you may have seen this already, but it's definitely worth a look.  

http://www.dhmo.org/

[Amberryl]

WTF people... sorcs are pretty damn hard... you shouldn't even talk about one without playing one first...

[Amberryl]

Quote: from Lifesbane on 7:42 pm on Jan. 5, 2003
hehe, about how long does it take a zerker to go through a sorc?

Zerkers, along with most things with a sword, kill me in one hit. k, thnx

(Edited by Amberryl at 9:04 pm on Jan. 5, 2003)

[Amberryl]

Oh, you guys also forgot to mention a couple of things...

• just because a sorc has an uber long mezz doesnt mean it always hits
• Sorcs can't do sh*t without a pet
• A tank will get just as much exp soloing a blue as a sorc will soloing an orange. The pet leeches all the exp, depending on how much damage it takes, how much damage it does, and how much damage the sorc does. And you can't just send the pet in to take the aggro and just nuke it to death. You always have to keep your damage below how much damage the pet does, otherwise you'll get aggro and die in 2 hits. If you're lucky, you can quickcast amnesia and pray for it to hit, (usually it doesn't and its AoE so it usually just causes more aggro from things around the area)

[Amberryl]

If you guys havn't gotten the hint already, just shut up now because you obviously have no clue about sorcs.

The only reason you dont hear sorcs complain a lot is because they are sick of hearing everyone else complain about their characters (cough scouts cough)

[Zutroy]

First of all, it takes my zerker 2 hits, not 1, to kill most casters. Reason of course being that you get a personal BT and that negates my first Doublefrost style (and costs me some endurance too!).

Secondly, a friend of a friend of a cousin's 8 year old niece solo'd an ENTIRE group of hibs with his sorc once, so obviously you have no skillz if you can't accomplish the same thing.

Finally, I refer you to this link

[Durandana]

Ok Amb er,

So let me get this straight, Scouts have no reason to complain?  Sure we can solo XP... Thats not where our problems are.

We are not wanted in groups so we solo our entire careers to get to the end game and then find out that we cant even hit the enemy anymore. If its not BT'd/ Evaded/blocked then it will miss completely. If it does hit the target the damage is completely lame because everybody and their mother has maxed resists. If you want logs i will take some next time i decide to frustrate myself with RvR.

Yes Sorcerers have their problems and i wish they would be fixed, They should have insta cast Mezz like the other realms for starters

[Rosslyn]

not to re-open the can of worms that is the "are scouts actually lame" debate, but just FYI when I rvr w/ my armsman, I too hit BT, I too get evaded, I too get blocked and parried.  I also get mezzed, stunned, DoT'd, and killed by the occasional uber assassin.  I don't have camo, stealth, or Truesight.  I actually have to chase someone down (tough w/ zero speed) to do ANY damage to them, and it's tough to do decent damage when you've used your end running someone down.  hehe, I'll leave it up to your deductive powers to figure out why you don't see me playing my arms very often.