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[Amberryl]

post your thoughts...

[Masta]

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[Amberryl]

are you angry cause my lvl 17 necro beat your lvl 19 savage?

[Masta]

Get to 50 now and we'll try again.. Savages at low level's suck until the high 30's and they really start to shine when they get 40h2h which ='s Quad hit's and they start getting the good self buffs which they need.

[Amberryl]

necro is staying at 35, but my sorc will mezz ur a$$ on teh battlefield b00yah!

[Masta]

det4 + purge + 2 healers with cure mez2win

Ohhh, and you have those ghetto mezzes too

[Durandana]

All i can say is Savages are the next on the nerf bats list of Grand slams... Enjoy it while it lasts

[Masta]

I know Duran, that's why im leveling 2 savages up. A 2h'er Sword Savage and a H2H Savage.

Savages are fine really, people always complain about quad hits (hell i know i did) but i've played a few level 50 savage's with 50 h2h and quad's are rare. Your better off using the savage style bug while it lasts, the one that let's you hit multiple targets without performing the style correctly.

Savage's need to keep 3 - 4 of their self buffs up in a fight too, it really hurts the savage because after or while he's taking down caster' and a healers a tank will come over and try and stop him, at the point the self buffs are done with and your short almost 20% health. and your in studded armor.

If you judge savage's off of the way Sushii plays than your being mislead, he has a bot with 47 aug and MoA3 which means he's always capped on stats, also he has MP AF102 studded and some of the best healers in the game under his belt (I stole Syric from him tho ) and one of the best guilds in DAoC. Playing a savage is nothing like a zerker either, when i play i have so many styles, RAs, and self buffs to use i play with 3 bars at once in 1 RvR fight.

Every realm got 2 powerfull new classes except for Hibernia. I'd trade the BD for the necro class any day for mids. Necro's can PL a toon from level 5 - 50 in  3 - 4 days /played no one else can do that in mid unless you get a fg that includes SM's and goto malm or something.

Reaver's are awsome too, that backstyle mixed in with their shouts and aoe shouts are awsome, there's an infinte amout of ways to spec a reaver also, all of them are good.

[Zutroy]

Valewalkers aren't that bad. They hit my zerker for 300+ damage with styles and have tons of insta crap they throw at you. They rely almost totally on their buffs though so if those are down they're just a caster with a funny looking stick.

Animists are overpowered and no one realizes it. Bomber pets have bolt range, travel at speed 5 and deal about 500 damage on impact. I'm not sure what the cast time is on those things, but if you see 3 or 4 running after you're pretty much screwed. Also, I'm sure everyone already knows about the turret farms at amg.

On the the PL thing - the bar room in Trollheim is great XP if you have a SM, healer and a shield bot. There's also a bug with pathing where you can run back a few steps into the hall and the mobs will de-aggro you if you get a bad pull. Each pull you get about 20-30 oj/reds. You can usually pull once a minute if the SM doesn't die. I got my noob savage from 5-30 there in about 8 hours.

[Masta]

Valewalker's have a nice back positional stun bug atm too that's pretty nice. Every VW i see tho just dosen't seem to melee, they cast their lifetap.

Yeah the animist field of shrooms is annoying, it prevents casters from casting and healers from healing and it roots tanks if the animist set it up right.

TH is the best PL, but sometimes it's hard to set up those groups. You know on MLF that people are always in trollheim but if you were to look on iseult no mid is ever in there, 90% of midgard on iseult has no idea what it is either, sucks for them.

Where have you been Zut? I was RvR'ing for about a week after Tin hit 50 and i haven't seen you at all.

[Amberryl]

im making my valewalker a melee one. basically you have to deal out all your damage before they do, because valewalkers dont last that long.

[Zutroy]

I'm taking a break from the 8v8 thing. It took too much time organizing everyone, getting buffs, figuring out who leads... I just got tired of it. I'm also working this summer so I can't spend 8+ hours a night playing DAoC like I used to; my profs didn't seem to care if I slept in class but for some reason my bosses do :\

Edit - Grats on 50 btw. Enjoy the week before the nerfs

(Edited by Zutroy at 1:49 pm on June 1, 2003)

[Masta]

That sucks dude, it must be a bitch. I don't know what i'll do when i can't sleep during the day :/

Thanks for the grats, i gave up after i made 3/4th's my total RP's in that week. A few of us from iseult are planning on running an 8 man on hib/bors once the patch comes up. Bumbos is gonna get us going so i hope it'll work, i've heard alot about how there was huge n00b mid zergs there, and how they're always doing HL raids that can be wiped by 2 pbaoe caster's.

Your 8 man guild is coming along pretty good tho, EA seems to have disbanded and merged with N@W so you should get some good group's in at night now. Even tho rvr on mid/mlf is completly gone now, some people still run 8v8 and it can be pretty fun. It seems to me that ever since AI left for hib/tristian, mids morale fell or something. We never have DF anymore now that they're gone too, no more AI alb raids in the morning hours like before :/   I just hope that bors works out.

[Zutroy]

I think the mid/MLF decline actually started back the weekend before 1.61 went live. We lost all our relics to an am raid (Albs used like 50 rams on each door) in about 10 minutes. We tried several times to get it back before the patch went live that next week, but the server kept crashing. We only tried 1 or 2 more relic raids after that and they all failed miserably.

The only thing that kept mid in it RP-wise was AI, ER,  N@W and the Siege 3am zerg. AI pretty much just took alb keeps and farmed them; I'm sure that got old after awhile and that's why they left. ER and EA left for hib/tristan about 2 weeks ago (the alliance was dying anyway), and I guess the remainder joined N@W. They still field an 8 man group every night but there's alot of elitist crap that goes on (like certain people only wanna play when others are on).

There's some talk of going to alb/tristan so we can kill AI/ER but its tough getting everyone to play the classes we need (*cough*pally*cough*). I know one guy is hell bent on playing a theurgist :\

[Sodom]

Lol, I'd love to play a Pally again, but I've got Mids on Tristan