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Vengeance => public => Topic started by: Sodom on Apr 01, 2003, 03:57 PM

Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Sodom on Apr 01, 2003, 03:57 PM
Final results on Sodom (in SC'd armor and self-buffed):

+2 Strength
+5 Constitution
+8 Dexterity
+19 Hit Points
+23 Weaponskill

Still nowhere near cap on any of my primary stats (Dex is closest at 275), but all 3 of my primaries (Dex, Con, Qui) are now above 220 when I'm buffed.

Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Malison on Apr 01, 2003, 04:09 PM
If i could find a ton fo Int gear I'd love to try out the changes to see how much DOT dmg is affected by over-capping.  
Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Masta on Apr 01, 2003, 04:29 PM
They got rid of that... Nice tho :P
Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Axecleaver on Apr 01, 2003, 05:13 PM
This will only affect you if you are buffed with red buffs, and/or if you exceeded 300 in any stat. Buff caps changed to 62 (from 50) and 92 (from 75). Mastery of the Arcane is still subject to the cap.

The 300 hard cap is gone and there appears to be no or marginal diminishing returns. That is, stats over 300 apparently matter just as much as stats from 250 to 300.

Big wins for the buffbots and min/max characters. My infiltrator had 335 dex buffed in 1.60... he should be in the win column. My paladin didn't have 300 on anything but con, at 301. He should be in the lose column by virtue of all the other people getting stronger.

Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Sodom on Apr 02, 2003, 12:52 AM
Sadly enough, Friars are the class that is least likely to benefit from the the removal of the 300 point stat hard-cap. Why?

1) Only Britons can be Friars (all 60's for stats)
2) Mythic STILL hasn't fixed the fact that STR (instead of DEX) rises as we level.

The highest stat a Friar (assuming he is relying on no other characters for buffs) will have is DEX, because of the stacking DEX and DEX/QUI buffs he has. If he put all 30 starting points in DEX, he can max this out at 299.

(Here's the boring math bit, skip if you don't give a damn):

Assuming a Friar with a minimum of 34 Enhance (this will give a 125% return on all his self-buffs).

DEX: 75 (items) + 60 (Holy Coordination *1.25) + 86 (Fluidity * 1.25) = 221

Putting all 30 points in DEX at creation gives you a DEX of 78 (with one point unspent), +221 @ lvl 50 from items and buffs = 299

Now, if he can get the DEX/QUI buff from a 50 Enh Cleric instead, the same Friar can max out at 306:

DEX: 75 (items) + 60 (Holy Coordination *1.25) + 93 (Coordination of the Archangel * 1.25) = 228, + 78 base DEX = 306

But how often do you see 50 Enh-spec Clerics? The idea of a Friar with a Cleric buffbot is just sad.

...wonder if I can convince Mattee to respec...

(Edited by Sodom at 1:05 am on April 2, 2003)

Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Axecleaver on Apr 02, 2003, 09:37 AM
Original Arcaiden, who was 50 smite/remainder rejuv had a 50 enhance buffbot at one time.
Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Zutroy on Apr 02, 2003, 01:48 PM
Wait a sec... did mythic somehow slip some buffbot loving by us?

Edit - maybe they should offer a special rate for bots. Like for $5 a month extra  you get a free 50 enh/aug/nurture clerical class that can't leave the PK in emain.

(Edited by Zutroy at 12:52 pm on April 2, 2003)

Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Glanowyn on Apr 02, 2003, 02:29 PM
"Slip" I think is the wrong word
Title: Post 1.61 stats
Post by: Sodom on Apr 02, 2003, 11:21 PM
"Slip" implies some lube was used. This was akin to dropping the soap at Rykers.

(Edited by Sodom at 11:22 pm on April 2, 2003)