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Vengeance => public => Topic started by: Malison on Apr 11, 2003, 05:05 PM

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Malison on Apr 11, 2003, 05:05 PM
What's your thoughts on what classes are the most 'fun' to play, in Albion? In all realms?

Which ones are the most deadly?

Discuss!

I really want to play one of the many speed classes, because to me, speed=fun.  But I'm thinking maybe I should go for a pure tank instead and trudge through the boring levels, because at least then i dont have to deal with 50% resist to my damage.

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Mchagen on Apr 11, 2003, 05:27 PM
If you pick a tank, make one with range.  Characters with ranged abilities can do something 100% of the time in rvr.    

I'm still thinking about my crossbow spec'd armsman template.  ;)

But minstrels are always fun too.  My favorite character will always be my ol' smite cleric though.  

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Amberryl on Apr 11, 2003, 09:08 PM
hehe, is your "lightning wizzy" still any good?
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Zutroy on Apr 12, 2003, 12:08 AM
The answer to all 3 is of course, the Earth Theurgist.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Bolldar Bloodaxe on Apr 12, 2003, 01:18 PM
Ive played almost every class and think friars are a lot of fun. Wizards are in PVE but not so much in RvR less you enjoy dieing a lot.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Nari on Apr 12, 2003, 01:27 PM
The Smizzard is still very effective.  With the new melee buffs, he can also hit for as much as, say, a paladin using 1h....  Add in Chain, shield, stun, smites and group instas and some regular heals...very effective character.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Sodom on Apr 13, 2003, 06:09 PM
I can't play anything but hybrids anymore (and I say this having played every alb class, and a smattering of classes for the other realms).

Pure casters die too quick for me. I hate knowing that if a mob aggros on me, /release is a foregone conclusion. Pet classes mitigate this somewhat, but I find managing aggro with pet classes boring too, as it involves sitting back and let your pet melee until the mob is at 75% health before you can open up with the "fun" DD spells. It's even worse in RvR, because you can't manage aggro :(

Pure tanks are slightly better, as long as they have a variety of styles to play with. However, using the same 3-style chain over and over gets boring too. If I were to play a pure tank, I'd have to go pure offense, as I've been spoiled by my friar's damage output.

Hybrids are the only classes that really float my boat. Weapon-styles and spells, and some way to support a group at range (healing or fire support). Also, I don't think I'm getting my money's worth out of the game unless I have 4 bars to watch (life, end, power, and xp). :)

So, for albion, my top recommended classes are:
Friar - Only thing they lack is ranged DD, otherwise they're the total DAOC experience.
Reaver - Their group-support abilities (chants) are useless in a good group (with CC), but otherwise I've had no complaints so far.
Paladin - Much better group support than the Reaver, but diversity is hurt by the gimpness of some spec-lines (2-handers).

(Edited by Sodom at 5:32 pm on April 13, 2003)

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Mchagen on Apr 14, 2003, 12:41 AM
Mcfrae could probably hit harder than Volkmar if I wasn't using styles.  That's still quite nice though.

15% increase in dps along with a 9.2 dps damage add isn't too shabby. (21 enh/44 smite).  Actually Nari, I should find out how hard you hit for... : /

 

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Mchagen on Apr 14, 2003, 12:42 AM
And Zut, I seriously hope you aren't serious.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Axecleaver on Apr 14, 2003, 02:14 PM
Given what I know about your RvR proclivities, I'd recommend either a friar or stealth minstrel. I say stealth minstrel because I think you'd like the keep antics.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Zutroy on Apr 14, 2003, 03:42 PM
I'd also recommend starting up a minstrel. With all the changes that have been made the last couple months, this class is probably one of the best classes (if not the best) in albion right now.

It's extremely easy to level too. Kill tasks up to 20 take 1/2 the time they do with non-speed classes and beyond that you can start charming humanoid healing pets that allow you to chain pull oranges non-stop.

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Malison on Apr 14, 2003, 04:30 PM
I'm definitely noticing a rise in the number of minstrels in RvR.  In fact, I'm almost willing to rush out and make one.  

What's their damage like in RvR?  What does their role usually turn into?  Could I solo a skald? How long to take down a caster?

I wish I could get a hold of another account, I could powerlevel a minstrel with Malison easily i'm sure.

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Rosslyn on Apr 14, 2003, 04:34 PM
from my limited experience, most minstrels rely a great deal on their DD's to augment their melee output.  Lots of minstrels seem to be respeccing into a respectable level of stealth (at least 25) to get the new toys like Climb Walls, which leaves you less able to spec fully in Instruments while still having a decent weapon skill.  The new absorb chant really helps though, since it doesn't require an instrument.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Malison on Apr 14, 2003, 05:13 PM
From the character builder, a viable spec looks like 39 slash, 25 stealth, 44 instruments.  That gives the last DD, climb walls, Safe Fall 2, and Amethyst Slash.  I could go a tad lower in slash for more stealth, but that doesn't seem t be a good trade off, since Amethyst is the only good anytime style :)

I'll probably start yet ANOTHER alt in a few minutes.  

ah the joys of alting.

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Rosslyn on Apr 14, 2003, 09:21 PM
that one might not be too bad for a highlander minstrel (with the extra strength that will help the slash styles more).  One thing to consider is whether the melee style damage is worth more over time to your character.  Not to belittle minstrels, but swinging a weapon isn't typically their strong suit, especially since they can't even have it equipped to use many of their best abilities.
Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Mchagen on Apr 15, 2003, 02:12 AM
Yeah, you want to make either a briton or highlander if you go slash.  My spec is 28 stealth, 34 thrust, 50 instruments (autotrained to 40).  

My primary role, at least what I try to do, is protect our casters and healers.  Stuns, dds, and mes on the run helps out when our squishies are getting beat-down.  

Minstrels are extremely versatile though, so giving them a 'single primary role' downplays what the character can actually do.

Title: Incredibly Boring or Incredibly Effective?
Post by: Masta on Apr 19, 2003, 11:50 PM
Savage!