Vengeance

Vengeance => public => Topic started by: Masta on Jul 12, 2003, 04:57 AM

Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Masta on Jul 12, 2003, 04:57 AM
Do me a favor and look over this log please, i can't figure out how this scout hit me for 300+ with fully SC'ed armor and 20% crush resist.

[03:30:22] You target [Yazuka]
[03:30:22] You examine Yazuka.  He is a member of an enemy realm!
[03:30:37] You attempt to use the shimmering arcanium Lifetaker war cleaver.
[03:30:37] You sheathe the shimmering arcanium Illbane Cleaving cleaver from your right hand.
[03:30:38] Your Left Axe skill has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Axe skill has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Envenom skill has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Spirit resistance has decreased.
[03:30:38] You wield the shimmering arcanium Lifetaker war cleaver in both hands.
[03:30:38] Your Left Axe skill has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Axe skill has increased.
[03:30:38] Your Critical Strike skill has increased.
[03:30:38] Your Slash resistance has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Thrust resistance has decreased.
[03:30:38] Your Body resistance increased.
[03:30:53] You attempt to use the shimmering arcanium Lifetaker war cleaver.
[03:31:19]  You auto-stick Briton.
[03:31:19] You enter combat mode but have no target!
[03:31:19] You must have a target for your next attack style!
[03:31:19] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:19] You are no longer hidden!
[03:31:19] You are hit for 206 damage.
[03:31:19] Your Strength has decreased.
[03:31:19] Your Constitution has decreased.
[03:31:19] Your hits have decreased.
[03:31:19] You feel weaker!
[03:31:19] You hit Yazuka for 2 extra damage!
[03:31:19] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:19] You are hit for 104 damage.
[03:31:19] You are poisoned!
[03:31:19] You are hit for 77 damage.
[03:31:19] You hit Yazuka for 3 extra damage!
[03:31:19] Your movement is slowed!
[03:31:19] You target [Yazuka]
[03:31:19] You examine Yazuka.  He is a member of an enemy realm!
[03:31:19] Yazuka is not in view!
[03:31:20] You attack Yazuka with your axe and hit for 123 (-50) damage!
[03:31:20] You critical hit for an additional 20 damage!
[03:31:20] You hit Yazuka for 21 extra damage!
[03:31:20] Yazuka is surrounded by constricting bonds!
[03:31:21] You must be wielding an axe in your left hand to use this style!
[03:31:21] You must be wielding an axe in your left hand to use this style!
[03:31:21] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:21] You evade Yazuka's attack!
[03:31:21] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:21] You are hit for 84 damage.
[03:31:21] You hit Yazuka for 2 extra damage!
[03:31:21] You attempt to use the shimmering arcanium Illbane Cleaving cleaver.
[03:31:21] You sheathe the shimmering arcanium Lifetaker war cleaver.  Both hands are now free.
[03:31:21] Your Axe skill has decreased.
[03:31:21] Your Critical Strike skill has decreased.
[03:31:21] Your Body resistance has decreased.
[03:31:21] You wield the shimmering arcanium Illbane Cleaving cleaver in your right hand.
[03:31:21] Your Left Axe skill has increased.
[03:31:21] Your Axe skill has increased.
[03:31:21] Your Envenom skill has increased.
[03:31:21] Your Spirit resistance increased.
[03:31:21] You wield the shimmering arcanium Thrustbender cleaver in your left hand.
[03:31:21] Your Left Axe skill has increased.
[03:31:21] Your Axe skill has increased.
[03:31:21] Your Slash resistance increased.
[03:31:21] Your Thrust resistance increased.
[03:31:22]  You are no longer auto-following your target.
[03:31:22] Racealoot attacks you with his shield!
[03:31:22] You are hit for 164 damage.
[03:31:22] You cannot move!
[03:31:22] You hit Racealoot for 1 extra damage!
[03:31:23] You are poisoned!
[03:31:23] You are hit for 78 damage.
[03:31:24]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:24]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:24]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:24]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:25]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:25]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:25]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:25] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:25] Yazuka fumbled!
[03:31:25] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:25] Yazuka misses!
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:26]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:27]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:27]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:27] You are poisoned!
[03:31:27] You are hit for 79 damage.
[03:31:27]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:27]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:27]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28] Racealoot attacks you with his anchor!
[03:31:28] Racealoot misses!
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:28]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:29]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:29] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:29] You are hit for 165 damage.
[03:31:29] You hit Yazuka for 3 extra damage!
[03:31:29] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:29] You are hit for 108 damage.
[03:31:29] You hit Yazuka for 2 extra damage!
[03:31:29] Your movement is slowed!
[03:31:29]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:29]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:29]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:29]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30]  You auto-face Briton.
[03:31:30] Racealoot attacks you with his anchor!
[03:31:30] You are hit for 336 damage.
[03:31:30] You hit Racealoot for 2 extra damage!
[03:31:31] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:31] You are hit for 196 damage.
[03:31:31] A crystal shield covers you.
[03:31:31] You hit Yazuka for 3 extra damage!
[03:31:31] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:31] Yazuka misses!
[03:31:31] Your movement is slowed!
[03:31:31] You are poisoned!
[03:31:31] You are hit for 78 damage.
[03:31:31] Linkr was just killed by Yazuka!
[03:31:31] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Constitution has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your hits have decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Strength has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Quickness has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Strength has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Constitution has decreased.
[03:31:31] Your hits have decreased.
[03:31:31] Your Strength has increased.
[03:31:31] Your Constitution has increased.
[03:31:31] Your hits have increased.
[03:31:31] You have died.  Type /release to return to your last bind point.
[03:31:31]  You are no longer auto-following your target.
[03:31:31] You died fighting for your realm and lose no experience!
[03:31:41]  Taking Screenshot!
[03:31:52] You release your corpse unto death.
[03:31:52] Your surroundings suddenly change!

*** Chat Log Closed: Sat Jul 12 03:31:52 2003


The Inf was Yazuka, RR5, 750k RPs.. He seemed to whiff/fumble alittle to much for his RR eh?

And Race was the scout i'm questioning, 2m RP's, guess thats puts him at RR7... Mammah didn't even hit me as hard as this guy did, and he was rr8... Mammah would do 20 - 30 melee damage.. I don't get it?

Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Lifesbane on Jul 12, 2003, 01:55 PM
was this in melee or with his bow? looks like he slammed you then switched to his bow....so he's probably fully buffed, using slash arrows (against which your armor has a big penatly) might have been a crit shot (if not he probably got a good critcal hit)....336 is perfectly reasonable
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Masta on Jul 12, 2003, 05:17 PM
The 336 was from a 1H'er slash weapon from sidi, 4.4spd weapon, i just found that out. In that case i have a 27% resist to slash, but my armor is weak to it. That hit is just to weird, i've never seen anything like it. He would have had to cap melee damage than get a 50% crit to get numbers up that high.
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Amberryl on Jul 12, 2003, 06:38 PM
some scouts do that i heard... its like an infilitrator with a sheild...
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Kirin on Jul 12, 2003, 07:00 PM
wtf? theres no fing ways a scout hit you for 360 with a meelee weapon, even if he had 50 slash and an mp Sced weapon with mop 5
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Zutroy on Jul 12, 2003, 07:52 PM
Soul Anchor from Sidi hits really hard due to its slow speed. If the scout was RR7, had high slash spec and was in full SC, I wouldn't be suprised at the damage with a lucky crit. IIRC, the albs still have all 3 strength relics on MLF right? Anyway, it's not too uncommon... I seem to recall some minstrels bragging about hitting for 300+ per hit using amy slash with it on the alb/rogue boards.

I dunno, if it was me, I'd be more upset that an inf was hitting me for over 200 with stilettos. It looked like he was using garrote too. I mean, you have like 36% thrust resist + those are the faster lvl 51 crafted thrusters.

Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Masta on Jul 12, 2003, 08:39 PM
I can understand

[03:31:31] Yazuka attacks you with his stiletto!
[03:31:31] You are hit for 196 damage.

Because he probally hit for 150ish and got a nice crit, plus he whiffed/fumbled worse than any inf i've ever fought.

What i'll NEVER understand is that 336 hit by a scout.

And if you go back and look over the logs, almost every hit had to be a 50% crit, that means the albs had to roll PERFECTLY on all of their damage checks, and to boot the inf swung at cap speed, and the scout swung at 2.0 seconds and landed a 336 hit on me.. Hrmmmm..


Edit - Yeah the Albs still have the STR relics on MLF too, btw.

(Edited by Masta at 9:40 pm on July 12, 2003)

Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Lifesbane on Jul 13, 2003, 12:53 AM
another thing is the scout could have been speed debuffed, which would cause his sword to hit harder (dps and all)....given a very well buffed high RR scout with high spec in a damage type your vulnerable to, a very slow weapon, all the str relics, and a good crit...it doesnt seem too unreasonable. if it was a buffless RR 2 thrust scout i would be a little more upset ;)
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Zutroy on Jul 13, 2003, 12:57 AM
Look at it this way, he could have pulled his bow out and crit shot you for 1000+
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Masta on Jul 13, 2003, 05:51 AM
He definatly wasn't attack speed debuffed, i tried to perf the inf and he came out of no where and slammed me. I was standing at the mg for 3 mins watching hibs run threw too, i didn't see him get uncovered, and there wasn't any spam involving those 2, oh well, i'm gonna go buy TS and gank his sorry little ass everytime i see him.

And there was a scout who would sit and mmg and TS stealthers, slam them, and pull out her bow and 2 shot them :/

Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Kirin on Jul 13, 2003, 09:06 AM
Woot, go scouts! Slam those Sbs so i can perf em (with my african lag it takes me about 5 seconds to set up a perf)
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Lifesbane on Jul 13, 2003, 02:02 PM
there were assasins that had see hidden and could see scouts at clip range while they were stealthed untill last patch..then they'd walk up and perf me. TS every half hour is not overpowered by any means. how about not camping the milegates? or my favorite "run with a group like everybody else in the game"
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Nari on Jul 13, 2003, 02:29 PM
LOL, go scouts :))...
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Kirin on Jul 13, 2003, 04:17 PM
/cheer lb
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Zutroy on Jul 13, 2003, 06:54 PM
nerf african lag
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Masta on Jul 14, 2003, 04:09 AM
I don't usually camp MG's on MLF, i can't compare with Lapu(rr10 inf) + the other 7 rouges he brings to amg along with all the hib rouges. That fight happened at u1 while i was omw to APK where i like to camp nowadays. If i even make it past u1 i try to ninja my way past u2, i usually make it a good 90% of the time, than i head over to APK and line up a perf by those Lurikeen mobs and wait for stupid stealthers who don't stealth when they came out and don't have their bots heal them right them. In that case enervating + dot posions > newb stealthers. Theres usually a rr5 NS that hangs out around there too, we usually try and team the duo alb stealthers that come out, other wise we just hunt each other when we get bored. I got bored while waiting for my group to log on hib/guin so we could lvl, so i figured i would just play my SB while i wait. I just can't compete with the rouge zergs on MLF, theres 0 mid stealthers out so i have pretty much no back up for any fight, oh well. Crim fins is also a nice spot i like to camp whenever i noticed hibs don't have DF. I'm just gonna hurry my chanters ass up to 50 and PL a NS and druid, end of it all imo :/
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Nari on Jul 14, 2003, 08:04 AM
Come roll a Merc bro..
Title: @Zutroy
Post by: Tydd on Jul 23, 2003, 02:00 PM
What's this about?